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Offline Marty van den Bosch

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Flywheel - final decision - Opinions?
« on: January 15, 2004, 03:02:19 pm »
Ok, I am down to the line here...Everything goes in on the 30th or 31st by someone.

Stock 19lbs (just pay to resurface it and step it for an ACT clutch)

ACT Streetlite (12lbs) $250US+$16 ship

Fidanza (8lbs) $269US+$16ship


I have read the pros and cons of lightened flywheels (lightening the stocker is out)

I figure the ACT is probably a good trade-off between the 2, but I am tempted to just go extreme and get the Fidanza (new low price!)


Those who have used either - opinions?
991 Plymouth Laser FWD
12.0 @ 121.7mph

Offline Jared Clark

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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2004, 04:35:49 pm »
I would go with the streetlight, the fidanza is too light for your setup I would think
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Offline Mike Schmid

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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2004, 07:00:20 pm »
Need more info.

What are they made of?  Steel, chrome-moly, aluminum?  Wear inserts or not?

Anyhow, I don't think I'd put anything but a chrome-moly flywheel in.  4130 or something similar.  Aluminum just isn't strong enough.
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Offline Marty van den Bosch

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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2004, 07:30:52 pm »
991 Plymouth Laser FWD
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Offline John Hartman

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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2004, 10:28:49 pm »
Id' stay away with the 8 lbs one for a daily street use one.
91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd.  GT-12, TriFlow Cams, 850s, Tial, JIC, Jackal, sticky rubber.
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Offline Chris Andrews

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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2004, 03:26:10 pm »
Get the fidanza.
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Offline John Hartman

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2004, 05:24:08 pm »
Chris your alive :)
91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd.  GT-12, TriFlow Cams, 850s, Tial, JIC, Jackal, sticky rubber.
86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km.  Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM, Full 3" exhaust, Cossie sway bar, 16" tires.
06 Mazdaspeed6 6spd awd, DISI turbo, heated leather HIDs, Corksport, Cobb, Konig, Centric...
2018 VW Golf Alltrack turbo Tornado Red, 6mt, some free mods

Offline Matt Feist

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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2004, 07:34:46 pm »
Chrome-moly Fidanza. I have not heard anything bad about them.
Itll be soo responsive, be exited!
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2004, 10:21:04 pm »
I'd say ACT...don't want to have idle/stalling problems...

Offline Mike Schmid

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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2004, 11:48:24 pm »
From updates to the NHRA rulebook:

"CLUTCH, FLYWHEEL, FLYWHEEL SHIELD
Flywheel and clutch meeting SFI Spec 1.3 and flywheel shield meeting SFI Spec 6.2 mandatory. Maximum depth of flywheel shield:   9.4-inches (inside). Aluminum flywheels prohibited. Refer to General Regulations 2:3, 2:5, 2:6, 2:7 and SFI Spec 10.1C for complete motor plate and bellhousing guidelines."

From the website:

"Fidanza flywheels are made from 6061 T6 aluminum"

Like I said before, I'd go chromo... so ACT.  But the choice is yours.  If you go Fidanza I'd at least like to see a scattershield on there.  You'll gain (well, probably break even or still lose compared to stock) static mass but you will still be losing the more important rotational mass.  As for NHRA legality you'll never get called on that at tech inspection but they don't just make up rules for the hell of it.  Actually I'm not even sure if that apllies to cars running 7.50 and slower, but still. There's SFI specs and NHRA regulations for a reason: Safety.

In Fidanza's defence 6061 T6 is good stuff for alot of things and it's really quite strong.  If I was running a race car and the rulebook allowed it I'd definitely consider an aluminum flywheel.  But then race cars get stripped down for inspections on a regular basis.  Who here has taken torn their motor down just to take a look at the bearings and rings and see how it's doing?  Or pulled a tranny to inspect the clutch and flywheel?  I'm guessing not many, if any...
DSMs - fun when they run

'92 TSi AWD AT - 180bhp
'93 TSi AWD - 195bhp
'90 Laser RS NT - *sold*
'71 Camaro - *sold*

Offline John Hartman

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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2004, 01:05:23 am »
good point Mike.

And even if they don't pull it apart, if it blows at the track and they get a piece of it, or worse someone get hurt, the rule infractor could be in a bad way...
91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd.  GT-12, TriFlow Cams, 850s, Tial, JIC, Jackal, sticky rubber.
86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km.  Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM, Full 3" exhaust, Cossie sway bar, 16" tires.
06 Mazdaspeed6 6spd awd, DISI turbo, heated leather HIDs, Corksport, Cobb, Konig, Centric...
2018 VW Golf Alltrack turbo Tornado Red, 6mt, some free mods

Offline Chris Andrews

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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2004, 11:46:07 am »
Fidanza flywheels are SFI approved.
92 TSi  AWD 2.4L Hybrid 12.3@113 SoLDINated!!!!
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Offline Mike Schmid

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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2004, 12:54:45 pm »
Are they?  Okay, it didn't say.  

At any rate, I think a scatter shield is still a good investment.
DSMs - fun when they run

'92 TSi AWD AT - 180bhp
'93 TSi AWD - 195bhp
'90 Laser RS NT - *sold*
'71 Camaro - *sold*

Offline Marty van den Bosch

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2004, 03:21:47 pm »
Well, I just ordered my new Fidanza flywheel. - man am I ever broke now. (LSD+Flywheel+ACT2600=$1225cdn+ship+gst=$1440, and I still need to pay to get this all installed.

Hard choice, thanks all for the input.

And thanks Ziggy for the great prices with fast and friendly service!

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991 Plymouth Laser FWD
12.0 @ 121.7mph

Offline Kevin Standeven

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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2004, 04:17:10 pm »
Marty man, you MUST take me for a ride in this beast of a car you're building. It's everything my car wants to be, but can't afford :D
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