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Offline Michael Cummings

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« on: December 05, 2003, 02:25:42 pm »
okay so i took the car off the road a week ago
went to change the fuel filter..took the old one off, took out the battery
but the new one in ...tightened everything down etc...then went to put the battery in and the battery was dead...so i hooked it up to my charger for about 2 days...while i was chargin the battery i took out the maf and did some more porting to it...so then when the battery was chared hooked the maf all up again put the filter back on hooked it all up then dropped the charged battery in tightened the terminals etc....then tried to start the car
the lights and shit come on and the car makes the startin up noise but wont turn over and actually start.....i was super low on gas so i thought maybe dont have enough gas..so bought 6 liters of gas and put it in..then tried again and same thing...car wont turn over and start
everything was smooth and started fine before the filter change
is there some step that i'm missin in puttin in a new fuel filter..do you have to bleed the lines or some crazy shit like that
i have no idea whats wrong
i know i hooked everything up properly
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Offline Vlad Busta

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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2003, 02:41:55 pm »
There's a fuel pump test connector against the firewall near the battery.  It's supposed to power the fuel pump when you jump it to power I think.  You could try priming the pump to see if that's your problem.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2003, 02:45:22 pm »
There should not be any extra steps to replacing a fuel filter. It is normal for it to need to crank for a bit longer the first time to fill it but it shouldn't be more than a few. Are you sure you didn't touch anything else like plug wires?
If all else fails there is a slight chance that you got a bad filter. Try putting the old one or another new one back in, then if that works return the one that didn't work.

PS I think everybody needs a B&M fuel guage. You would not need to guess if you had one.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2003, 02:45:31 pm »
Not enuff cold-cranking amps on your battery.  Try a fresh battery.  Just coz the lights come on, doesn't mean the battery's strong enough to power the starter.  Remember, starting an engine via the flywheel takes a some grunt.

However, I may be mis-reading your statement by saying it won't "turn over and actually start".  If it does continually turn over, the starter is doing it's job.  I'd start lookin at which way you installed that fuel filter perhaps ... also, a poorly connected MAF plug will allow you to turn over the engine repeatedly but fail to actually start properly (except for NT's ... funny, you don't have to have the MAF plugged in ... you get a CEL, but it still runs just fine :))

Good Luck!
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Offline Michael Cummings

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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2003, 02:51:47 pm »
the car makes a noise when i turn the ignition key..like it makes the noise right before the car "turns over" and actually starts as to where it is on and idling etc
so it does make a noise .....just wont actually start
i cant explain that any better

maybe try having someone jump the car with cables?
wouldnt' the car still start if the filter was bad?
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Offline Wade Carlson

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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2003, 03:33:31 pm »
did u reconnect the power to your fuel pump after we did your fuel filter?

LOL i bet u didn't!
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Offline Kevin Standeven

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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2003, 03:49:37 pm »
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did u reconnect the power to your fuel pump after we did your fuel filter?


heh, that's my guess. make sure the line is reconnected or any fuses have been reinserted
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Offline Michael Cummings

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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2003, 05:10:50 pm »
fuck you wade..lol..jk
i'm not that retarded..yes of course i checked all the fuses for the power line..and i did connect the power cable for the pump to the battery..and made sure i plugged the ground back in to the pump relay
i dont know what the hell is wrong ..only thing i can think of is that the battery doesn't have enough juice to turn over...i'm gunna try and jump it off my moms car after dinner...i'll let ya guys know what happens
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Offline Kevin Standeven

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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2003, 05:47:32 pm »
maybe I sabotaged it as part of the FWD grudge match :twisted:

I would double check that maf connection, and make sure that no pins are bent. other than that, try jumping it or a new battery, and good luck
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Offline Wade Carlson

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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2003, 06:42:49 pm »
alright last question mike did u plug te ground back in to the right pin on the relay?
there is a spare u know
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Offline Michael Cummings

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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2003, 07:01:55 pm »
im 99.9% sure i plugged it in to the right one i'll double check but i'm sure i did..i think its the battery
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Offline Wade Carlson

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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2003, 07:03:56 pm »
then go jump that son of a bitch
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Offline Michael Cummings

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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2003, 03:20:34 pm »
ok got it started today..just needed a bit of a jump....its all good now...
except that the filter is leakin a bit on the bottom bolt...and cant seem to get it any tighter
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Offline Kevin Standeven

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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2003, 03:41:02 pm »
you got a crushwasher in there, and using some kind of thread lock?

I've got the same problem, but can't take care of it until next week.
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Offline Wade Carlson

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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2003, 04:26:13 pm »
there is no crus washer on te bottom

maybe some teflon tape on the threads?

you can pick up a roll for a few bucks
i've got a roll ere too
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